Sopra Steria Next takes the stage at Sopra Banking Summit

Sopra Banking Summit - October, 10th to 12th, 2023  

Sopra Steria Next took part in the Sopra Banking Summit organised by Sopra Steria and Sopra Banking on the theme of Human Intelligence and Banking: "Discover how human intelligence is shaping the future of banking".

Here are a few examples of Sopra Steria Next presentation: Raphael Bussato presented advances in digital lending and the impact of low-code technologies. Laurence Niclosse on marketing automation and personalisation strategies. Olivier Lacour on the potential of human talent in financial services, and Philippe Marques on strategies to boost financial services for SMEs in the face of regulatory challenges.

You will find below the videos of the various presentations made by our experts. 

Serving the SME Market: Creating Value Beyond Compliance | Sopra Banking Summit 2023
Digital lending: edge of automated origination - Sopra Banking Summit 2023
Marketing for banks: retaining continuous attention - Sopra Banking Summit 2023

[Music] [0:29] hello and welcome to one of the first [0:31] sessions of the sopra banking Summit uh [0:34] today we'll be talking about marketing [0:35] for banks retaining continuous attention [0:38] first I would like to introduce our [0:39] wonderful speakers we have laurance [0:41] nichlos uh customer experience director [0:43] at sopra syia next we also have Nikola M [0:47] our digital marketing director at SOA [0:49] banking software and finally we're very [0:51] pleased to have with us [0:53] pa uh sorry my FR pration isn't that [0:56] good always uh the regional director [0:58] marketing Cloud at Salesforce [1:00] [Music]

[1:09] over to you laurance for the first [1:10] introduction thank you Le so Laurence [1:13] nichos uh I am director of customer [1:15] experience for banks at sopras next uh I [1:18] have more than two decades of experience [1:21] leading transformation project for banks [1:24] as well as uh insurance companies and I [1:27] have a deep expertise uh in the field of [1:30] retail banking uh we a focus on uh [1:33] customer Journey uh multi Channel [1:36] distribution and of course digital [1:37] marketing thank you over to you Nicola

[1:40] thank you L and thanks for having me [1:42] today good morning good afternoon [1:43] everyone I'm Nikola M currently a [1:46] digital marketing director at supp [1:48] banking software uh prior to that I've [1:50] been working in digital marketing for [1:52] the last 12 years now in various roles [1:54] including startups overseeing some Ser a fundraising I also successful launch uh [2:01] launched and sold two years ago a [2:03] company in uh active in growth [2:06] strategies uh and uh what I'm currently [2:08] doing now is quite interesting because [2:10] there are many things uh I work on data [2:12] CRM Legion digital campaigns and such [2:16] and I'm very excited to be here with you [2:18] today thank you over to you P

[2:21] well thank you Leo for having me it's great to be [2:22] here uh so my name is Poland won I'm [2:25] Regional sales director at Salesforce [2:27] marketing Cloud uh I've got 17 years of [2:30] experience in CRM marketing and sales um [2:35] over the past 10 years I've been working [2:36] at LinkedIn and now Salesforce and I've [2:39] had the privilege to support and advise [2:41] some of the largest companies in their [2:43] digital and marketing [2:45] transformation and in the banking and [2:49] the energy and the automotive Industries [2:51] uh I am a digital marketing expert I'm [2:54] also passionate about it uh I like to [2:57] challenge traditional marketing approach [2:59] usually come campaign based marketing

[3:01] and switch them to more customer [3:03] Journeys marketing thanks to Innovation [3:07] data Ai and bring that into the [3:09] strategies to build that competitive [3:12] Advantage thank you and thank you to all [3:15] of those who have now tuned in uh today [3:17] we will be discussing marketing [3:18] Automation and personalization for [3:20] banking marketers customer acquisition [3:23] and retention uh in a landscape that is [3:26] disrupted by fintex uh could prove [3:28] challenging uh applying datadriven [3:30] automated and personalizing uh practices [3:33] will help A banks marketing team to save [3:36] costs uh to increase the leads that are [3:38] generated and finally also with [3:40] conversion ultimately this will help [3:43] keep any Bank brand top of mind and [3:46] improve engagement with both new and [3:48] existing customers uh and as we can see [3:50] on the screen here uh when we look at [3:52] the amount of ads that consumers are [3:54] exposed to on a daily basis uh that gets [3:56] very uh uh uh uh intense so a retail [4:01] banking brand share of voice has the [4:03] potential to really drown fully uh if we [4:05] think about a consumer when he gets up [4:07] on an average day uh what they'll have [4:08] for breakfast for lunch uh Etc uh and [4:11] then these yeah Banks need to stay top [4:14] of mind so over to you Nicola for a bit [4:16] more of an introduction to the topic [4:18] thanks L for the record I have no idea [4:20] what you had for breakfast even though I [4:22] trust that you're going on S banking.com [4:24] very uh often yes I would say um we can [4:27] start by saying that aside from ing [4:29] 4,000 ads per day um well um [4:34] broadcasting 4,000 ads per day is not a [4:36] goal for a company uh the goal for the [4:38] company uh being all what you have [4:40] quoted staying top of mind doing great [4:42] branding and so on and so on and um how [4:45] do we do that in a very simple way with [4:48] personalization okay and I'm not lying [4:50] when I'm saying that personalization is [4:52] actually very hard to achieve why is so [4:54] why why does it have to be uh so [4:56] complicated to personalize each message [4:59] you have first because we're dealing

[5:01] with an enormous amount of data and [5:03] second because the way the data is [5:07] represented today is not one block uh [5:10] we're dealing with many touch points uh [5:12] you you have quoted what I like to call [5:14] customer life moments the breakfast [5:16] being one of them we have many others [5:19] some of them are obvious for the banks [5:21] some of some of them are less obvious [5:23] for the banks obvious could be uh uh my [5:26] son just uh started uh just finished uh [5:29] high school for instance and maybe he's [5:31] going to need a Lo a loan to go to the [5:34] business school that's obvious less [5:36] obvious would be uh my card got broke [5:39] and I'm going to need a loan those are [5:40] two different customer life moments that [5:42] you need uh somehow to aggregate uh to [5:46] know uh when to address a message with [5:49] the right of her and and son sorry if [5:51] the examples are very candid um

[5:56] marketing automation personalization uh [5:58] everything goes together because you [6:00] have to deal with the anous amount of of [6:03] data a lot of customer life moments that [6:05] are a lot of touch points uh sometimes [6:08] you uh um your customer will agree to [6:12] fill out fill out 30 cm uh long form on [6:16] your website like on super banking.com [6:18] uh some other time this won't be [6:21] possible because of span of attention uh [6:23] because uh they don't want to okay and [6:26] in that case um I believe you want to [6:29] straight and centralized okay those are [6:32] two very important points uh for [6:34] marketing automation um and um the way [6:38] you centralize as a bank becomes a [6:41] challenge um we can talk about CRM we [6:43] will talk about CRM today uh we can talk [6:46] about uh sequences uh we can talk about [6:49] all the tools uh that you can find out [6:51] there there are more than apparently [6:53] 7,000 uh tools um and it becomes a [6:56] change for for for the CMOS um last but [6:59] not least but I believe Lawrence is [7:01] better than me talking about this data [7:04] comes with trust and privacy and that's [7:06] probably something you want to take into [7:08] account over to La yes thank you [7:11] Nicholas yeah for sure trust um it's a [7:14] real challenge uh today because uh banks [7:18] have um a mixed relation when it comes [7:20] to trust uh trusted with money yet not [7:24] trusted to uh always act for the [7:28] customer best [7:29] interest and um so trust is a very [7:33] important topic today uh in the broader [7:36] context of the retail banking industry [7:39] uh because we all know about open [7:41] Banking and open finance is coming so um [7:46] so trust it's it's it's a key topic and [7:48] the fact is we see uh larger Banks and [7:52] um technology provider collaborate uh on [7:56] the front of uh data privacy legislation [7:59] uh to uh suggest um new new product and

[8:03] new Services uh com which combine uh [8:08] Data Trust and customer uh services for [8:12] sure definitely yes uh despite these [8:15] concerns around trust and broader [8:17] legislation both data uses and [8:19] compliance uh we know that consumers [8:23] across markets are willing to share [8:24] their personal data uh 70 to 80% of [8:27] consumers are willing to share it both [8:29] personal and financial data as long as [8:31] it benefits them and usually with brands [8:33] that they are loyal to now while 71% of [8:36] consumers actually expect personalized [8:38] experiences from their Banks uh both [8:40] throughout their entire customer journey [8:43] and as per the world retail banking [8:44] report of 20122 uh 52% of consumers said [8:47] that banking was not fun uh and they uh [8:51] did not they say that Banks didn't offer [8:53] the experiences that they come to expect [8:56] uh in in terms of their fital [8:58] relationships um now having said the [8:59] tone for today it is clear that Banks [9:02] need to up their game in this uh aspect [9:04] of marketing uh let's go to our speakers [9:08] uh let's start by hearing from each and [9:09] one of you uh whether you see a future [9:12] without uh marketing Automation and [9:14] personalization over to you first D yeah [9:17] thanks yes obviously um as you said [9:20] customer expect personalization uh from [9:23] that bank and maybe um maybe even more [9:27] from that bank because we are talking [9:29] about uh sensitive subject about money [9:34] about financial matters uh so about [9:37] personal concerns so as a customer um I [9:41] expect a specific service or offer from [9:43] a bank um which meets my own needs and [9:47] not those of my neighbors for sure um so [9:50] the banks have no more choice they have [9:53] to personalize uh the customer Journey [9:55] they have to personalize the interaction [9:58] with the client and and so their value [10:00] proposition um and regarding automation [10:03] uh the fact is the banks are faced um in [10:07] um um several an increase in touch Point [10:11] as as Nicola explained so an increase in [10:14] interaction and potential leads so to be [10:18] clear at the same times Banks uh must [10:21] meet the challenge of the mass of [10:24] interaction with the imperative of [10:27] personalization and so without marketing [10:31] automation it will be absolutely [10:34] impossible over to you PA yes um as [10:37] laurren said we are all consumers we are [10:39] all customers I'm the customer of two [10:42] Banks which give me the opportunity to [10:44] compare what I really hate above all is [10:46] being retargeted receiving a message uh [10:49] to promote an offer or service that I've [10:52] I don't need or even worse that I've [10:55] just purchased this is really bad brand [10:57] reputation and lack of Trust on the [11:00] opposite what I really like is when my [11:02] bank is able to advise me pushing me the [11:05] right piece of content on the right me [11:08] on the right Channel at the right time [11:11] there I feel that I am understood by my [11:13] bank and we all need that right last [11:16] year we released a study called the [11:18] connected customer uh in which um [11:22] 88% of the consumer that were uh um [11:26] surveyed uh say that the experience with [11:29] the brand is and the bank is as [11:32] important as the service that they [11:33] purchase 88% so to answer your question [11:37] no future without marketing automation [11:39] no future without personalization I [11:41] think banks and marketing teams uh [11:44] really need to invest in in that field [11:47] finally niola your yeah uh thanks L of [11:50] course I agree with PO with Lawrence uh [11:53] if that would be a yes or no question [11:54] it's a big yes um then um as Poland's [11:58] example suggest uh you don't want to [12:00] fall into an un uncanny valet that is [12:03] you don't want your communication to [12:05] look too weird so from time to time I [12:08] believe we digital marketers like a bit [12:11] of human touch in that way um so I will [12:15] turn your question which was yes or no [12:18] into yes but with human touch uh if you [12:21] all me uh maybe two tips to stay to stay [12:25] human while you're communicating uh we [12:28] all love sequence [12:29] I love I love my sequences in Salesforce [12:32] it does everything for me but from time [12:34] to time I stop it just to insert a [12:36] little bit of human that is picking up [12:38] the phone and call a client uh that is [12:41] writing an actual email myself with my [12:44] with my hands or someone from my from my [12:46] team does um that would be tip number [12:48] one uh tip number two uh would be [12:51] automation is beautiful when it's [12:53] invisible uh so whenever you can [12:56] automate everything in your back office [12:57] for instance creating some segments for [12:59] your advertising please do so uh but [13:02] where your communication be very touchy [13:03] because it's very easy now even more [13:06] with AI to dictate uh everything [13:08] automated definitely now while there are [13:11] challenges with trust and of course with [13:13] that are affecting Banks reputations and [13:15] of course with digital transformation [13:16] that is needed in this regard uh the [13:18] benefits of automating marketing [13:20] processes are are quite clear in terms [13:22] of cost savings and Lead generated um [13:25] how can Banks make sure that they're [13:26] really ready for the future uh over to [13:28] you first PA for your thoughts yes it [13:30] makes me think of a customer example [13:33] BBVA in Spain and the implementation of [13:36] marketing Automation and the impact on [13:38] business the marketing teams managed to [13:41] reduce by 10 the number of Comm customer [13:44] Communication customer engagement so [13:46] really balancing the commercial pressure [13:48] building more trust with their customers [13:50] and in the meantime with higher [13:53] personalization they manag to um [13:55] multiply by four the conversion rate [13:58] through emails so that's a great example [14:00] of the impact of marketing Automation [14:02] and personalization on business so I [14:06] think in this context Banks need to [14:07] invest in three main area three main [14:10] pillar the first one is um the what I [14:14] call the no the customer knowledge and [14:16] the data which is the foundation of [14:17] everything usually Banks traditional [14:20] banks in particular have um uh the data [14:23] everywhere spread everywhere in the [14:25] organization and U very often very [14:28] siloed across channels and across legoy [14:31] system so there is a massive value in [14:33] bringing all that data together the CRM [14:36] the web the digital uh bring that [14:39] together into a one single view of the [14:42] customer the Second Step once you have [14:44] that single view of the customer in a [14:46] safe and secure way is the um the [14:50] personalize and humanize that what you [14:52] mention Nicolai bit earlier uh it's then [14:56] it enables marketing teams to segment [14:59] and activate the data across every [15:01] channel with the same message and [15:04] pushing the right message the right [15:06] piece of advice on the right time on the [15:09] right channel so that's the second step [15:12] and the third one is optimize right [15:14] marketing teams cannot improve what they [15:16] can't measure so they need to build a [15:19] monitoring uh system that provides [15:21] intelligent marketing so that they can [15:23] make the right decision very quickly on [15:26] the campaigns on the journeys and op [15:29] their marketing investment definitely I [15:31] like the Peter drer if I'm not mistaken [15:33] Peter drer quote there in the middle [15:35] over to laurance for your thoughts yes [15:38] for sure I agree with what PO said um to [15:42] succeed first yes mastering and [15:43] exploiting the client data it's [15:45] absolutely key but as we're talking [15:48] about Banks we know that they have to do [15:50] this with the respect of Regulation and [15:53] gdpr first and we know that sometimes [15:56] the bank can be a little Chile to [16:00] exploit the tons of data they they owns [16:03] because of their statues of U trusted [16:06] third parties so just be careful with [16:09] the exploit exploit of of of data for [16:12] sure um and when you say po about [16:16] humanized and Nicholas um the fact is [16:20] when I when I think on customer Journey [16:22] uh for me uh the fact is today it's a [16:26] challenge for the marketing team because [16:29] um the marketing team often um uh think [16:33] um product approach or recurring uh [16:36] marketing campaign and so maybe before [16:40] the tools it's a change of mindset that [16:43] marketing teams have to proceed to to [16:46] think on customer journey and and for [16:49] sure because it's a subject of our [16:51] discussion automation it's absolutely [16:53] crucial to be able to to to to respect [16:57] the the premise of personalization and [17:01] sorry but that's why SAS next assist um [17:05] our clients to uh to proceed to this [17:08] transformation definitely yeah and to [17:10] follow on from this uh we see a clear [17:12] overlap with the importance of um kind [17:16] of automating and personalizing these [17:18] Journeys uh when it comes to customer [17:20] experiences so we touch on these in this [17:22] in the various answers U now fintech [17:25] firms seem to be quite good in [17:27] delivering uh on these aspects in terms [17:29] of both customer experience but also in [17:31] user experience in their apps do you do [17:33] you believe that banks will be able to [17:35] deliver kind of similar experiences to [17:38] automating their marketing efforts uh [17:40] and and digitally transforming in this [17:41] regard [17:42] laon the fact banks are capable of [17:45] anything for sure but uh I'm not really [17:48] comfortable with such a comparison [17:51] because um of course um the fex have [17:54] disrupt uh the way to interact with the [17:57] customer um offering a new customer [18:00] experience and so they they force the [18:02] banks to act and maybe more quickly that [18:05] they would have done but uh when we talk [18:08] about fex we talk about a small number [18:10] of products and and clients uh and often [18:14] through a single application when um [18:18] when we talk about traditional Banks as [18:20] universal Bank um they cover a a broader [18:24] customer based a wide range of product [18:27] and services [18:28] we talk about physical and digital [18:31] channel so the they are faced uh this [18:36] major challenge in term of customer [18:39] Journey uh for a bank how to offer the [18:42] right product at the right time uh [18:45] through the right channel uh when it [18:48] comes of thousand of products and [18:50] million of potential customer Journey so [18:53] I'm sure that the bank will succeed but [18:56] the challenge is not that simple [18:58] simple definitely over to Nia thanks and [19:01] I'm glad that you covered the [19:03] Traditional Bank part because maybe I [19:04] can take the new bank part um so uh I [19:07] believe customer experience the first [19:09] time I've heard customer experience I [19:11] was wondering is it product is it [19:12] marketing is it a bit of both is it [19:14] something else and I believe for neobank [19:17] customer experience is really a key [19:20] differentiator uh that's a way for them [19:22] to KNE their Niche I'm talking about the [19:23] niche because as Laurence said U they [19:25] start with a limited number of uh prods [19:29] uh small base of customers and they go [19:32] out to conquer the world uh and how do [19:35] they do it with customer experience uh I [19:37] was talking to a friend who's a product [19:39] marketer uh at a very uh large NE Bank n [19:44] uh very large NE bank but they start [19:45] from nothing obviously and uh she was [19:48] telling me when it comes to customer [19:50] experience I'm not competing against [19:51] other Banks it's a very bold statement [19:54] uh she's competing against APLE for [19:57] instance and and cpgs and Ikea and Coke [20:01] because they want to create this super [20:03] hero brand uh with this one button makes [20:06] everything experience um and at the same [20:09] time I found it bold and I found it [20:11] beautiful because it really gives you [20:13] the mindset of how important the [20:15] customer experience is uh when it comes [20:17] to to neobanks um last but not least um [20:23] consequences maybe uh so customer [20:25] experience super hero brand it means [20:28] branding basically how do you recognize [20:30] the brand and so on um but it also comes [20:32] with new tactics uh such as infen [20:35] marketing it may be surprising but they [20:37] turn themselves to micro influencers um [20:39] I had some funny examples um and uh last [20:43] but not least and it's the very last um [20:46] I think uh it comes as a package like [20:49] it's at the same time marketing and [20:51] product definitely par your thoughts you [20:54] I think everything has been said here so [20:56] uh no I couldn't agree more with what [20:59] Lawrence and Nicolas said on the [21:01] importance of the customer experience [21:03] and putting the customer at the center I [21:06] think it's a as you say long it's a [21:08] shift mindset it's a shift of Mind [21:10] mindset sorry um and at Sal Force we've [21:13] been on a mission for the past 24 years [21:15] to help companies to switch and to [21:18] become customer company to put the [21:20] customer at the center and I was talking [21:23] about BV BBVA a little bit earlier [21:26] revolute is a fintech and uh they both [21:29] operate on the Salesforce platform and [21:31] they are doing great I think you know [21:32] it's it's a matter of switching the [21:34] mindset and putting the customer at the [21:36] center of the business definitely uh [21:39] finally in I'd say 30 seconds but you [21:42] can take a bit longer if you like um I [21:44] think I think we still got some time on [21:45] the on the timer uh can I have your [21:47] summarizing thoughts you know what would [21:49] you like a bank any given Bank CMO to [21:51] take away from today's session uh first [21:54] to you [21:55] Lance uh thank you um maybe if if I [21:59] would have an advice for banks to [22:01] succeed in this transformation and we [22:04] talk about marketing automation maybe it [22:07] will be to be absolutely clear about [22:10] their maturity I mean uh maturity of [22:14] their marketing tools marketing [22:16] ecosystem and as I said the maturity of [22:20] their marketing team to operate this [22:23] transformation and for me it's only on [22:27] this basis [22:28] that the banks will be able to build a [22:31] real transformation and operational road [22:35] map to switch to uh the marketing [22:39] Automation and so to uh to respond to [22:42] the promise of [22:45] personalization and sorry for that but [22:48] the fact is uh regarding this uh this [22:51] topic and this difficulties for banks to [22:54] to to really have this uh this view of [22:57] this material [22:58] we developed uh a methodology in sopras [23:02] anex to assess the maturity uh of of the [23:06] bank and so to help them to build this [23:10] uh this transformation road map thank [23:12] you P yeah I think uh it's really [23:15] important to uh um assess the level of [23:19] maturity and to design the right pass to [23:23] Omni Channel marketing um and I think [23:27] they are great partners for that um on a [23:30] more disruptive note that that you [23:32] mentioned I would speak about artificial [23:34] intelligence CU you know every CMO that [23:37] I meet with every marketing director ask [23:39] me the same question how can I leverage [23:42] technology data and AI to better serve [23:44] my customer to better Market to better [23:46] sell to my customer in a safe way and so [23:50] I think in this new era of artificial [23:52] intelligence I think the new equation [23:54] for bank is to bring together the data [23:58] the artificial intelligence the CRM to [24:00] empower teams and humanize and and embed [24:04] that um with a layer of trust security [24:07] and safety as you mentioned earlier I [24:09] think that's the new equation for banks [24:11] if they want to uh succeed and to meet [24:14] both the customer expectations and the [24:16] profitability goals definitely great [24:19] equation over to you Nica for your final [24:21] thoughts thanks L um agreed to [24:23] everything um I would add that you don't [24:26] want your automation uh to be become a [24:28] blackbox uh you want to stay human you [24:30] want to understand what's in there it's [24:32] another challenge of AI actually uh you [24:35] want to know uh what does the answer [24:37] that is given to you come from um stay [24:40] human um automation is beautiful when [24:43] invisible I believe we talked about this [24:45] and um customer experience and user [24:48] experience will remain key in the coming [24:50] years definitely well thank you very [24:52] much for joining us today um please do [24:55] share this session widely uh everyone [24:57] that's watching at home also feel free [24:59] to well please do follow s steria s [25:02] banking software and of course [25:03] Salesforce uh and if you uh seen any of [25:06] the speakers I'm I'm sure you're all on [25:07] LinkedIn so feel free to reach out to [25:09] our speakers on LinkedIn and and have [25:11] conversations with them online to [25:12] continue the dialogue on this on this [25:14] topic thank you again for joining today [25:16] and that was [25:26] it [25:28] [Music] [25:51] be

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